Chat 5 Transcript
Young Women Online
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orion: hi
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orion: hi david
orion: hey
orion: you are too quiet
orion: ok .have a nice day
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Jules: afternoon david
Jules: bbl
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Jules: hey susan
sue: hi jules and david - are you here to chat
Jules: I'm the "presenter" extraordinaire
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Juliette: david made the server - he's lurking
sue: great -looking forward to a good session
Juliette: are u susan meyer?
sue: yes, are you jo?
Juliette: no sorry, Juliette Meade at your service
Juliette: have you been to any of the other chat sessions?
sue: don't be sorry - glad to meet you. i was communicating with 'jo' earlier in the week re joining this session so she may be along too.
Juliette: fabulous
sue: yes i went to one early in the pgm but the session was very slow and not much happened. what about you?
Juliette: no this is my 1st
Juliette: Have you facilitated a chat session before?
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sue: good- hope we get some joiners soon so we can have your presentation. you're in wa?
Juliette: I chat all the time on irc but never like this
Juliette: no i am in Canberra
sue: no i haven't facilitated - my 1st facilitation
david1: Hi everyone
Juliette: hey david
sue: hi david
david1: I am on remote connection. Not sure how good it is so if I drop out dont panic
sue: ok Juliette doesn't panic
Juliette: :)
Juliette: Sue, who do you work for?
david1: Hey Juliette what do you feel the advantages of the internet to someone like yourself
sue: i work for myself as a mgmgt consultant. some a short assignments and some big eg just finished a few months ago as the general mgr of information systems at vodafone after a 2 and a half year assigment with them
Juliette: The bests advantage for me is the new forms of communication it has provided as well as the opportunity as a teacher to teach ppl new things
Juliette: Plus the Internet as certainly cut down on my phone bill
Juliette: Telstra must be really upset at the std money they lose from me
sue: david and david1 - where do you work and what do you do?
david1: I found it actually increased my local calls
Juliette: I talk to people all over the country on irc and icq
david1: Hi sue david and david1 are the same
david1: I am the administrator of this site
Juliette: well my family live in Qld and Vic, My best friend lives in Vic and most of the people I work with for Guides Australia can now be contacted online so that saves heaps in STD bills as long as I time it so that I do all of my mailing and contacts in the one dial in session
david1: My real work is as a lecturer in computer science at the UNE
sue: thanks for giving us this great opportunity david.
david1: No worries been a pleasure
Juliette: Sue, where are you located?
david1: At th emoment in Inverell northern NSW
david1: Connected by a didgey modem on a laptop
david1: and yourself
Juliette:I'm in Canberra
sue: i am in sydney
david1: woops didgey=dodgey
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sue: interesting comment about reduction in your costs. one of the issues i see as a limiting factor for many people and especially women on the internet is the cost
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Juliette: Well i guess if I average it out I would have to take into account the cost of my ISP as well but I certainly make the most of my $40 a month because I download mp3s, use it to administer both my work and home email accounts, web pages and systems
Juliette: Then again I can claim my internet costs on tax because of my job
sue: i've lost the text - my window won't scroll to the current discusin point. i will exit and reconnect. back in a moment
Juliette: I am in a fairly lucky position
Juliette: ok
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Juliette: Hi Judy
Judy: Hi - how are you?
Juliette: great thanks
Juliette: I'm Juliette, the presenter. where are you from?
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Juliette: welcome back sue
Judy: Woo... were you able to log in at 2pm - I have been trying and couldnt get in
Juliette: I am using mirc rather than the web browser java window - its more stable so I have been here since 1:30
sue: thanks - i was beginning to think i'd never make it back.... right ! hi judy - i'll wait till i catch up with the conversation
Juliette: there hasn't been a conversation yet - judy just arrived too
Judy: Juliette, I haven't used mirc ... but we have had a problem with stability in the two previous chats
sue: ok- judy where ar you from
Juliette: how bizarre
Judy: Sue, I am at home outside Canberra, and Juliette - yep, David was trying to track the problem
Juliette: hey I am in Canberra
Juliette: :)
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sue: judy - i''m in sydney
Juliette: Hi neni
Judy: Juliette - and you are prficient with emoticons - is that what they are called?
sue: hello neni
Juliette: yes thats what they are called - emoticons
Juliette: :) smiling
Juliette: :( sad
Juliette: :/ lopsided grin
Juliette: :P tongue poking out
neni: hi - i'm just out of canberra
Juliette: :PPPPP rasberry
Judy: Juliette, show me showing off!
Juliette: mmm showing off - don't know bout that one
Juliette: where abouts "just outside of canberra"?
Juliette: (:-> there's a lil person for you too
neni: wot's happened - :)0< - that's smiling, fat, walking!
Judy: Juliet - Wallaroo Road via Hall - overlooking the Murrumbidgee! PS great place for a Guideing activity!
Juliette: oh sounds beautiful
sue: it sure does
Judy: Sue, where are you?
neni: get any interesting wildlife there?
sue: i'm in sydney - in lilyfield
Juliette: the interesting wildlife would be all the drunk teens hooning
Juliette: How about you Neni?
sue: actual it's quite tranquil - remarkably so for the inner city
sue: not like i imagine it is round your area tho
Judy: I think hooning is a trait which probably bridges the gap between the inner city and the country!
neni: i'm in the bush capital doing a job - my house in camperdown
Judy: Hey I am interested in how IRC can be used for meetings, ie how realistic, useful is it?
neni: i'd love to know!
Juliette: I have used IRC for about 3 years now
neni: what do you use it for?
Juliette: I usually sit on the oz.org server but for special events like the Jamboree on the Internet I connect to an overseas server
Judy: Juliette, why do you connect to different servers?
Juliette: I use Irc to talk to my family in Qld rather than pay for an std call, to talk to my friends here in Canberra and also to send files
neni: do you use it for committee etc meetings?
neni: how do you get the others connected? - where can I get understandable instructions
Juliette: I don't have a server for Guides in Australia... its run by an American Server on Dalnet. In Australia I use it for personal reasons and occoasionaly for Guide meetings. It helps if the other leaders I am talking to have the same irc client like Mirc
Juliette: Best way to get others connected is to get the same client like Mirc which is available from all TUCOWS software sites and then connect to the same server
Judy: Sue, do you use Mirc as well ie what are the options?
Juliette: I joined a channel called #canberra a few years ago and was lucky enough to meet up with some people on it who knew how to use it really well. I asked SOOOO many questions and they were very helpful and showed me the ropes. Nowadays they have a #help channel that is there specifically to teach newbies how to use it
sue: no i don't - can't help as i don't know what the options are
Juliette: ICQ is fast taking over for convenience as its a lot easier to use for a new person
neni: looks like we had better all join the Guides!
sue: :)
Juliette: Its easy to drag a 'nickname' into an icq chat window rather than teaching someone how to connect to a server and then a channel
Judy: David - do you have views about chat clietns?, and Juliet, if I get IRC how can I log into your #help channel?
neni: what is ICQ/
Juliette: David is a 'bot' its a connection keeping the channel open
Juliette: ICQ is a much smaller Internet messeging service
Judy: What is a bot and I cant do inverted commas with this client
Juliette: you can join icq once you download the client and get yourself a UIN (universal identification number) and then find other users to add to your contact list
Judy: Juliette, ah, ha! and how do you get a UNI?
Juliette: a 'bot' is an idle computer left online to keep a channel open
sue: juliette - perhaps more people will join after 3pm, those that didn't realise the time cahnged. did you do your preentation while i was off line ? i not, would you cre to do t in abot 5 mins?
Juliette: once you download and install ICQ a help wizard will launch and walk you through connecting and asign you a UIN
Juliette: Neni re the #help channel ... once you log onto a server in IRC you can type /join #help and it will take you straight to the #help channel
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RACHIE: YEAH
Juliette: sue - no i didn't do it while you were away, there was no one here. Judy and Neni joined as you did
RACHIE: YEAH AGAIN
Juliette: rachie!!! you made it
Juliette: Ladies this is Rachel who is a member of my online Guide Unit. I just walked her through connecting to this server by talking to her on ICQ and then she connected on her
Juliette: e
RACHIE: yep i did.
RACHIE: yeah Juliette congratulates Rach
RACHIE: I haven't used this programm before.
Juliette: phew - my fingers are burning from typing
Juliette: you're using mirc now Rahc?
RACHIE: yep, I am
Judy: What is an online Guide Unit?
RACHIE: the other one is still trying to get through
Juliette: I decided to start a Guide unit for Guides that would only meet online, rather than face to face in a Guide Hall - its a great way to connect Guides who are distanced
sue: what a fantastic idea
RACHIE: yeah, I think its a good idea
Juliette: Just like a regular Guide unit but we only talk online. I have never met Rach in person but I am her online Guide leader
sue: how many members do you have?
RACHIE: . . .so do we have any other members??
Juliette: we have 2 at the moment, rach and a young lass in S.A
Juliette: Rach is in Vic
Judy: Wooo sounds like it might be good for you to post about this to the discussion group on women in regional, rural and remote Australia ie new recruits!
Juliette: there is also a Ranger Guide unit in Canberra thats disbanding and their leader emailed me to see if they could join this unit
RACHIE: what else do I need to do to become a proper member??
Juliette: Rach you'll just need to email your details to the Lones Adviser in Qld (I'll send you her email again) because she facilitates the admin of the unit
sue: this is an excellent example of what young women are doing online and how!!!!
RACHIE: ok, thats easy.
Juliette: other than than you're a fully fledged member of #Firefly
RACHIE: YEAHHHHHHH
Juliette: There are just sooo many things people can do online but just don't try. The possibilities are endless Juliette does a happy dance
RACHIE: exactly
sue: how can we help to get more to join the unit - there must be lots of people who would love to be part of it
Juliette: The Guides Australia webteam haven't met in person but through online meetings we manage the national site's web pages and content
Judy: Examples? what am i missing? ie what do you like best? Sue - I agree - is there info about it on the web?
Juliette: The best way is to advertise it and include my email
Juliette: julietto@interact.net.au
Juliette: If they're existing members of the Guide Movement the cost is nil.. they have already paid their fees to HQ but if they're new to it then they pay $40 to the Qld admin ppl and then we go from there
Juliette: we have a web page with info on it
Juliette: i'll just find it for u
Juliette: http://www.guidesaus.org.au/guides/ten/firefly.html
sue: judy , neni and racjie, what do you each do interms of work/study ??
Juliette: If you need clients to communicate online like mirc or ICQ you can get them from any Tucows site eg: http://tucows.interact.net.au
RACHIE: I go to nagle College bairnsdale - year 10
sue: juliette - ill make a note of the site and pass it on - i think it's a brilliant idea.
Juliette: sue - I think the New Zealand leaders are starting something similar over there too - its a great way to reach people not in your area
sue: rachie - have you got good computer courses there?
RACHIE: yep
Juliette: I belong to a mailing list for email for Guide Leaders in Australia and New Zealand and we use it to swap ideas and solve probs
RACHIE: Next year I'm doing VCE Information Technology, and VET information Technology
sue: what do 'vce' and 'vet' stand for?
Juliette: hey Rach - that's excellent , I wish we'd had course like that when I went through college
Juliette: VCE is equivalent to the NSW Hsc
RACHIE: VCE, is like your HSC, i think, Year 11 and 12
RACHIE: and VET is a course done through, ummmm, TAFE i think, but is done during class
sue: fanastic? are you a co-ed colledge or girls only?
Judy: Sue - re work/study - the bit that is relevant here is that I do a lot of voluntary work for the National Women's Justice Coalition - and use the internet and email a lot for that purpose - havent got to chat client's yet though
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Juliette: I couldn't live without a daily chat online
Juliette: Hi Ros
Ros: Hi Juliette
Ros: Hi Judy
sue: judy -sounds v.intersting. why is this form of communication better that say phoning them
RACHIE: hello
Juliette: Forget ringing people to organise a night out - all my pals are online so we arrange things via computers
sue: hi ros!
Ros: Hi Sue
Judy: Sue, do you know what the trends are with high school and college students ie are girls and young women taking computing to the extent of boys?
Judy: Sue - why is email better than phoning - cos I can do it faster than I can phone, mailing lists multiply the effect and I get around answering machines - faster, cheaper, more efficient
sue: yes i do, and it's not good news. the number of girls entering compuing courses is lower than it's been in years.
Judy: Sue... wooo!, why!
Ros: I am a mother of a 13 year old - I have noticed she uses a computer differently to her male cousins
Juliette: Ros -what does your 13yr old use it for compared to what the male cousins do?
Ros: I am glad to say my daughter actually put her name down for desktop publishing as an elective next year.
Juliette: Rachie - you're 16 - what do you use the computer for mostly?
sue: there's a perception amongst many girls that computijng is a boys world, or at least a world of techno babble and no ppl interaction.. very sad, 'cause it couldn't be furhter from the reality the compuer/IT industry
RACHIE: everything
RACHIE: like I use it all the time
Ros: She is a 'social' user - apart from school assignments she only uses in the Internet together with a friend.
RACHIE: school work, i have heaps of music files on it, and everything
sue: judy - cause i know it's a very effective medium. i'm trying to demonstrate a point. :)
Juliette: rachie do you download mp3s or wav files?
RACHIE: mp3's
RACHIE: alot better.
Juliette: agreed
Judy: Sue, going back there has been a lot of work to design courses taking into account gender issues - eg to give examples that are meaningful to a range of learning styles, ie content and the course delivery design - is there maybe an outstanding problem here re computer teaching/courses - the social use of chat etc by young people seems to be a very powerful dynamic to break down some of the barriers / hessitancies
Ros: My daughter complains that the computers at school are too slow. This influences her choice of computer courses.
RACHIE: yeah. I have some of my band performances on CD, so i transferred them onto my computer.
Juliette: yay for the chat sessions!!!
Ros: She also hears from her friends that the teaching is boring.
Juliette: Judy - If I hadn't have joined chat sessions when I 1st got online there is no way I would know now what I do
neni: wot's an mp3?
sue: judy - yep. sadly in 1999 we're still dealing with all the same issues ie gender, learning styles etc and all the things we all know. but the issues seem so difficult to address even though we know what many of them are....
Juliette: Judy - Small group teaching is the most effective way of learning computing - the bigger the class the harder it is to get around and cater to everyone. Unfortunately with the way school classes are designed its just sooo hard to get a small computer class
Juliette: Neni - mp3s are compressed audio files
Judy: Juliette, my experience has been similar - ie once you take an interest and have a go, you learn and then you start having conversations with people about technology thingys and in my case start buying computer mags - without understanding much but liking the pictures!
Juliette: neni- you can download your fav songs on mp3 and it takes up abou 3mgs of space on your harddrive. If you downloaded it in a 'sound wav' file it would take up about 200mgs of space
RACHIE: yeah, mp3s are fantastic, I HAD, like 400
Juliette: Judy - the Australia Net Guide is a great magazine for cutting through the techno babble. I started out on it and then worked my way up to APC (Australian Personal Computer)
sue: i hear from many girls that the boys in their schools get much more time on the computers than the girls. so the boys are more confident and so it makes the boys more confident to jump on the computer. an old fashion catch 22..
Judy: Rachie, do you also play with web pages?
RACHIE: nahh, can't be bothered, really lazy.
RACHIE: nahh, i've only just got the internet. Juliette grins at Rach
Juliette: Women can propagate the interest in the Net by learning something and then teaching others
Juliette: Forget charging ppl tuition time, just show them how and they'll show someone else
sue: judy - i went to a discussion group on this last week and one of the proposals was to ensure that girls had separate computer lessos to boys
Judy: Juliette - I agree and when you look at some of the fantastic email lists like Welink (rural women particularly Qld) - it is sooooo true1
Juliette: There's a great ideology on the net called "freeware or Careware" ppl have made great programs and rather than charging for them they make them available to others for free just so that others will learn and use the net
Judy: Sue, I wonder whether there has been analysis for the trends - ie is there work underway to look at what the problems are and work out what the strategies should be? ie are separate computers like a one off trying to address one aspect?
sue: juliette - would you care to present at this stage?
Ros: At my daughters school they have technology for girls which Lucienne has loved - even though she is doing similar things in a mixed class - no bothersome boys so I think separate computer classes taught by the right teachers could really help break down the barriers.
Juliette: Hahah Sue - I kind feel like I have been
Juliette: I am happy answering people's questions rather than saying "sit back and I'll preach to you"
Juliette: :)
Juliette: I'm having fun participating in this great discussion
Juliette: is there anything anyone would like to know in particular
Judy: Ros, then maybe there is also an issue here about the need for some fast inservice training for computer teachers to raise awareness about the trends and what is likey to help with a range of student needs
Juliette: I'm versatile and can talk about email, chat, web pages, women and youth on the net and best of all some fabulous sites to play with on the net
sue: thanks - just checking all is well :)
Juliette: Thanks Sue
Ros: Yes - for example at my daughters school perhaps I should be suggesting a class titled something like 'Online for girls'.
Judy: And Juliette and Rachie - I just cant let this opportunity go by... you are both so comfortable with the chat medium... and there is such a need in the community to help people who havent got access or skill levels yet - has Guides done any community projects about IT?
Juliette: Ros - I am a teacher in Canberra and its so fruistrating trying to get the money for a specialist teacher in computing who is actually interested in it. I do the IT at my school and teach the staff and students but I'm one of few who actually have a passion for it
sue: judy< ros> there"s also an issue about how teachers skillls are enhanced and maintained so that they have the confidence to use and teach and facilitate the students>
Ros: However my daughters comment about the computers at her school shows how hard it is for the public school system to keep up with the students expectations in terms of speed etc.
RACHIE: yeah, i agree with juliette
Ros: Perhaps we need to get some of the teachers hooked on chat!
sue: juliet. how do we get more teachers like you?
Juliette: Guides biggest involvement in IT (that I know of) is the JOTI/JOTA weekend in Oct. Joti is Jamboree on the Internet and we used to do jamboree on the Air with shortwa ve radios. Now Guides set their own stations up and get their girls and friends talking to each other across the country and overseas via chat and email for a weekend in OCt
Judy: All - what about computer access at home? ie I really feel for students trying to learn computing without home access - and then if there is a computer at home I wonder who gets to use it?
Juliette: Sue - *grin* I'm one in a million. There are people like me out there but we just have to convince the powers that be with the money that it is the future and not a lark
Ros: There was an example of an interesting approach on a Canadian Online Conference last year - they had older people and high school aged students learning computer skills together
sue: ros - excellent proposition! we could start onlline compititions with prizes so that there is incentive for ppl to join in - and we're not just preaching to the converted...so to speak
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Juliette: This is a sweeping generalisation but i t seems like the younger teachers leaving uni and teacher training at the moment are much more comfortable with the idea of teaching IT than the older generation
Juliette: hi Jo
Ros: Perhaps there is the potential for some of the older people who have become passionate about computers to help at schools!
Judy: Juliette - one area where there really are great needs is juveniles in detention facilites eg. Quamby in Canberra - I don't know what computing facilities they have a Quamby but getting people going with computers while they have a lot of time on their hands and building skills which may lead to something more for them... great opportunity for some effective work by community spirited groups!
Juliette: The medium IS spreading though... have you listened to radio programs aimed at kids? They always include URLS for websites now
Judy: Ros, and maybe also for young people who are already proficient - ie peer learning
Jo: Hi Juliette, I'm just getting used to the technology and trying to catch up on the discussion about young women online, can I go back and read the earlier discussion?
Ros: Yes Judy peer learning has proved very successful for older people.
Juliette: Of course you can Jo, if you haven't got scrolling options on your client let me know and I'll send you the current log of this chat session
sue: jul. i know - problem is that the majority of teachers are in the older age groups so we need to address the issue of IT traiing now sowe don't have whole genrations if unadequate users leaving school
Judy: Hi Jo... woo the discussion is moving very fast
RACHIE: Hey i've gotta go now, i've been online for farr too long,so i'll c you all later bye bye
sue: hi jo-welcome.
Jo: Sue, part of your statement is true, however, the other is that teachers are not resourced approiately to improve their own skills.
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Judy: By Rachie - great to chat
sue: bye rach
Juliette: Judy - re the Quamby idea. I expect that Guides just wouldn't have the facilities or the funding to start a program like that. It would be a great idea for a more financial youth org to try though
Ros: About access at home - I have recently done some research in the local Aboriginal community in the Armidale area - out of 99 households surveyed only three has internet access and only 24 had a computer most of which were over four years old.
sue: all- this is another prob we touched on earlier before many of u joined. the cost of being online contributes to the great dividing line.
Juliette: ros - i expect the cost will come down for access over the next few years because of the huge competition ISPS are entering into for customers
Juliette: Then you need to have the initial set up costs to get your own PC
neni: and some help for the little things that confound!
Juliette: Comp prices will probably stay high for a while because of the problems overseas countries like tawain are having
Ros: Yes but Aboriginal people are also far less likley to have a telephone at home - our research confirmed this.
Judy: Ros, there is a group in Victoria (I think) called Computerbank and they get computers which are being replaced and gee them up - it isnt presumably as good as a new computer but this kind of thing is probably needed in many more places - sounds like Rotary and other similar orgs need to think about it
sue: ros. yep. don't knnow the answers, but till we make the h/w and access more affordable we perpetuate the awful situation wher the rich get more educated and thoe who can't afford the basic technology will get left behind in even more and greater ways
Juliette: Ros - did the Aboriginal people you surveyed want computers and Internet access or were their 1st priorities the phone?
Judy: Sue, hear hear!
Ros: We have an application in to Networking the Nation for ten public access points in local Aboriginal organisations in the area.
Jo: Sue, do you think public access points are a useful way to go for people who can't afford computers and email at home?
sue: sure - it's better than nothing
Juliette: that's a great idea.. did the application include someone to teach about the benefits of accesS?
Ros: We need to take the access to places marginalised groups feel comfortable, along with access to support and training.
Juliette: Jo- 2 years ago my staff we computer illiterate. Now they all have an email acocunt because of public access made available to them at school. We can't get near the computers at lunchtime
Ros: Yes Juliette we asked for two indigenous trainers who were the trainees on the planning project.
sue: every bit helps as long as it is recognised as a compromise while a full and proper solution evolves
Juliette: ros - thats unreal!!!
neni: for me, there's nothing like being able to curl up around my own computer and take the time to figure out how things work - that can't happen at public access points, and I guess I'd never feel confident without it
Juliette: Cyber cafes are becoming very trendy for people who want to log on and not own the h/w
Ros: We also plan to have a CDEP (the Aboriginal work for the dole scheme) work crew to support each site - given initial training through TAFE.
Jo: Juliette, that sounds great about staff access, do you know what staff are using the technology for? Is it to support teaching subjects in classes?
sue: very good point neni
Juliette: jo - Not as yet, they're still having too much fun emailing family and friends and checking their TAB results *grin*. Virtually no one uses it for work purposes unless I mail them a great site to get info from. There is however avilable sites for teachers like EDNA online
Jo: neni, I appreciate what you're saying, I've learnt more about computers by having my own at home. But there are some really interesting stories about sharing the learning experience and developing new computers skills. I can tell you a brief story about an "adopt an oldie" project that a colleague of mine talks about regularly.
Juliette: One staff member has booked his round the world trip online and all his accomodation. He does this at lunchtime by logging on and sending his emails
sue: it's not only aboriginal ppl who are one again being disadvantaged. the infrastructure needs to be extended so that all rural ppl can also have access
Ros: I agree Sue - as part of our project we did a survey at the local Library which has an access point - the bias among their users was the same high education bias that exists for the net generally.
Juliette: ladies - we have about 15 minutes left of this chat session before I must vacumn and do my housework *smirk* and I promised some great sites for having fun on the net. I am going paste some URLS in this window. If you miss them or don't have an opportunity to catch them you can mail me for a log of this chat session. My email address is julietto@interact.net.au
Ros: I was surprised in the period we did the survey how few young people were using the PAP - although it was early in the school year.
Jo: Sue, it's obvious with commonwealth funding like RTIF to think that the rural infrastructure will be adequate in the next five years. However, it's obvious that voices still need to inform decision makers that extensive problems still exist and that may be current technology will not over come some rural community infrastructure problems.
Juliette: Another plug for the Guides Australia online unit and links for young girls online http://www.guidesaus.org.au/guides/ten/
Juliette: Bizarre stuff online and funny pics http://www.bizarremag.com/picture/default.htm
Judy: Mmm... I have just had another idea... the Regional Summit which has just finished - had a fab web site and a range of facilities for the public to provide input - ie the Solutions Line which was email, phone, and fax. I wonder whether for the next National Youth Round Table - something similar would help not only to provide input but also to provide a focus for young people to be on-line - something like the Round Table combined with a push like Womens
Juliette: judy thats a great idea... send the idea in now while they're taking applications for the round table sessions
sue: jo- i agree. also 5 years is a long time for some communities to have to wait. they are being left out as we speak
Jo: I've checked out the Regional Summit page and it has some very useful information on community and communications. Some good stuff also on participation.
Juliette: Virtual flowers to send to people and entice them to use the Net http://www.virtualflorist.com/en/act/home/
sue: jo- v.good idea
Juliette: For the people who say "there's nothing good on the net" http://www.bored.com/
Judy: Juliette - let me give the idea to you... I could help by raising it with the YWCA http://www.ywca Young WEL http://www.wel.org.au and with Sue at Guides Australia
Judy: Woops http://www.ywca.org.au
Juliette: Stories from other people's lives and pictures to contribute to a worldwide quilt online http://alts1.kodak.com/cgi-bin/US/en/corp/further/photoQuilt/view.p l
Juliette: Judy - I am sending the log of this session to Sue Conde.. I'll tell her to bring it up with National HQ
Juliette: Is there anything else anyone wanted to ask before the end of the session?
Ros: I'm going to have to sign off - I have a report to write. I have enjoyed taking part in this chat.
neni: thanks heaps - i've really enjoyed it
Juliette: Bye ros - thanks for being a part of it
sue: thanks for all that info juliette
Judy: Bye Ros, Juliette I am all typed out! I have your email address however!!
Judy: Well done everyone, and thankyou Sue...
Ros: Thanks for all the sites. and Bye
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Juliette: Anytime Sue... remember my email address if anyone else has further questions of needs #help julietto@interact.net.au
sue: thanks you all
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Jo: Thanks everyone, this was a unique experience, which I have enjoyed!
Juliette: You're most welcome. Thank you very much for coming
Juliette: Sue - thanks heaps for the assist.
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sue: i thought you were great - i'll contact you on your em soon
Juliette: I'm off now Sue. Thanks for the invite. I had such a good time.
sue: we may as well sign off too now.
Juliette: Bye David (when you come back and check your log) thank you for the chat room
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